It takes a lot of research to prepare a proper post, I don’t just post what I think. Researching both Biblical and secular history is the proper way to make it correctly, in most cases. Plus I want you to think and study not just accept the things I write, nor what anyone else does either.

The MAIN reason I have found the things I have is through research.

Sorry this has taken so long to post but I needed to look closely at each belief, if you feel I did not write enough about your belief, feel free to post Scripture concerning it!

This a very controversial and strongly discussed subject, as I mentioned before there are so many views as to when this will take place in regards to the Tribulation Period.Examples: Pre Trib, Mid Trib, Pre Wrath and Post Trib.

Many people will get very upset about how they believe and argue fiercely over it all are sincere in which they believe in. I once had a friend that asked me which one “should” be right about a certain subject of God’s Word. He was referring as to the fact he had more schooling than I did.

My answer was, “It depends why they studied a certain subject.” My example was, “Were they studying to prove what they already believed or was it to find the truth REGARDLESS what the answer was.”

He didn’t say anymore, because he knew he studied to prove what he already believed. Most of what I have learned in the Bible is NOT what I already thought so I know what I find is not from my Preconceived ideas.

Before we get into looking at them, lets be assured, Jesus will come back just as He said He would and THEN we will “know” many things we wonder about now. And this isn’t a subject that should get anyone upset because what’s important is to be ready NOW regardless of when it will be!

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The Pre Trib, of course, is that the church will be removed from the earth before the seven (7) year Tribulation Period starts. This is based on various things like it is not believed “by those” of this belief the church isn’t mentioned after chapter three (3) of Revelation. Also lets realize this is the belief by most people.

The following are some Scripture used for this way of believing:

1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words.

1 Corinthians 15:52, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

1 Thessalonians 5:9, “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,”

Rev. 3:10, Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.

The first part- Because the Bible doesn’t say anything about the church is NO argument at all. We can say anything because the Bible doesn’t say………..

However the Scripture stated, and there is other Scripture, is reason for many to believe in Pre Trib rapture.

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Mid Trib

The midtribulational view divides the Tribulation into two periods of 1260 days each, according to Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 12:7 and sees the Rapture of the Church occurring at that midpoint.

There are plenty of Scripture verses that can be used to support a midTrib Rapture. “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Matthew 24: 9-13

It would seem to indicate here that Jesus is exhorting us to “endure to the end” tying our endurance to being saved from the Great Tribulation.

Similarly, Jesus’ reference to the Abomination of Desolation (Matthew 24:15) is followed by a warning to flee, (21)”For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”

(4041)”Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.”

The midtribulationist equates the beginning of the Great Tribulation when the antichrist abolishes Temple worship and begins his persecution of Israel with Rapture.

 

Rev. 20 tells us there are 2 major rising of the dead and this is after 3.5 billion have been killed. Rev. 11 says the REWARDS will be handed out, this is after the TWO Witnesses are killed. 2000 yrs of badly behaving Christians needs to be addressed to answer the prayers of the innocent ones persecuted by the Church and much more. You have to get your wedding dress on to marry Jesus as well

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Pre Wrath

This view is similar to Mid Trip in the sense that the church will face persecution during the first part of the seven year period except instead of a time they mostly refer to events by comparing Scripture with Scripture such as:

Matt. 24: 1421, 2931

And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation, spoken of through the prophet Daniel- let the reader understand- then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the house top go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray your flight will not take place in Winter or on the Sabbath. For then will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now- and never to be equaled again.

29Immediately after the distress of those days “‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;
The stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.30Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

With:

Rev. 6: 1217,

I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun was turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair the whole moon turned blood red. And the stars in the sky fell to the earth, as figs drop from the fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”

And:

Daniel 7:25, ‘He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the SAINTS of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be GIVEN UNTO HIS HAND for a time, times, and half a time

Rev. 17: 9-17,

9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God, Who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” 11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: “Amen! Praise and glory And wisdom and thanks and honor And power and strength Be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!” 13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?” 14 I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore, “they are before the throne of God And serve him day and night in his temple; And he who sits on the throne Will shelter them with his presence. 16 ‘Never again will they hunger; Never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat down on them,’
Nor any scorching heat. 17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne Will be their shepherd; ‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’ ‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’”

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Post Trib:

Using Scripture like:

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman,and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

This one man’s writings about the foregoing Scripture: Notice that Revelation 12:11 says that they over came him by the Blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, this is a New Testament Church thing cause that is how the Christians overcome Satan. Revelation 12:12 says that the great tribulation is the wrath of Satan, not the wrath of God. Revelation 12:13 says the woman flees unto the wilderness. This means that the woman will flee from the dragon. So in other words the beast does not control the whole entire earth or the woman could not flee. Revelation 12:14 says that the great Tribulation last for a time and times and half a time which = 3 1/2 years. Revelation 12:17 the dragon makes war (death happens in war) with those who have the testimony of Jesus means saints will be killed during this time of Revelation 12:14 time times and half of time 3 1/2 years.

Over 19 More verses are used for a Post Tribulation Rapture belief

(1.) Daniel 7:25, (2.) Daniel 8:24, (3.) Daniel 11:32-33, (4.) Daniel 12:7 (5.) Matthew 24:21-31,(6.) Matthew 24:21-31, (7.) Mark 13:20-22, (8.) Mark 13:24-27, (9.) 1st Thessalonians 5:1-4, (10.) 2nd Thessalonians 2:1-4, (11.) Revelation 6:9-11 (12.) Revelation 7:13-15, (13.) Revelation 12:9,11,12,17, (14.) Revelation 13:7, (15.) Revelation 13:7-9, (16.) Revelation 13:9-10, (17.) Revelation 14:7 (18.) Revelation 14:9,12,13 (19.) Revelation 20:4-6,

(1.) Daniel 7:25, ‘He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the SAINTS of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be GIVEN UNTO HIS HAND for a time, times, and half a time

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To summarize, we see all have the same Scripture usage, in varying ways, except the Pre Trib belief. Each of the others feel the church will endure part or all of the seven years called the Tribulation Period. Mid and Pre Wrath can and do use all the same Scripture as each have the same belief only name the belief different.

My personal belief is the Pre Wrath and It is based off the Scripture mentioned as well as many others. When seeing how Matthew and Revelations tell of the same things happening in the heavens I believe Jesus told us exactly what would happen when He came for His people.

One thing we truly need to realize is we all believe Jesus is coming back again and at some point He will set up His kingdon and He will rule and reign over all creation!

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